04/05/2018 08:00 AM House COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS

         SJR 4-AK LEGALLY ACQUIRED IVORY USE EXEMPTION                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:06:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ZULKOSKY announced  that  the first  order of  business                                                               
would be  CS FOR SENATE  JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 4(RES),  Urging the                                                               
United  States Congress  to pass  legislation  providing for  the                                                               
exemption  of  legally  acquired walrus,  mammoth,  and  mastodon                                                               
ivory from laws that ban the sale, use, and possession of ivory.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:06:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  PARISH  moved to  adopt  [Conceptual]  Amendment 1,  to                                                               
CSSJR 4(RES),  to change "Alaska  artist" to "Alaskan  artist" on                                                               
page 1, line  14, and page 2,  lines 6 and 11.   He then objected                                                               
for purposes of explanation.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:07:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 8:07 a.m. to 8:16 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:16:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  PARISH   restated  the   motion  to   adopt  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 1.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:17:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND objected.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  PARISH   offered  his  understanding   that  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 1  would bring  the proposed  legislation in  line with                                                               
common  language usage.   He  opined that  one can  find work  by                                                               
Alaskan artists;  to say Alaska  artists would be "unusual."   He                                                               
said he had  spoken with staff in the sponsor's  office before he                                                               
considered offering the amendment.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:18:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DRUMMOND, regarding  the choice  between "Alaska"                                                               
or "Alaskan," cited the University  of Alaska (UAF) style manual.                                                               
She read:   "Alaskan is a noun describing a  person, not a place.                                                               
It is never an Alaskan city,  for example."  She said the example                                                               
sentence  read,  "The professors  are  longtime  Alaskans."   She                                                               
continued:  "When  you're not using Alaska as a  proper noun, use                                                               
it as an  adjective to describe things.   Lots of us  who live in                                                               
Alaska love to  eat Alaska salmon and berries."   She highlighted                                                               
all the correct usages of Alaska  as an adjective in the proposed                                                               
legislation, as  in "Alaska Native", on  page 1, lines 6,  8, and                                                               
10, and  "Alaska artists", on page  1, line 14.   She pointed out                                                               
that on page 2, line 16,  it says "the Alaska State Legislature".                                                               
She  remarked,  "If  you are  actually  applying  this  amendment                                                               
appropriately, you  would also be  seeking to change the  name of                                                               
the institution, on  page 2, line 16; therefore, I  object, and I                                                               
will be voting against this amendment."                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:21:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JIM   PUCKETT,  Staff,   Senator   Donny   Olson,  Alaska   State                                                               
Legislature,    offered   his    understanding   after    hearing                                                               
Representative Drummond's explanation, that she was correct.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:22:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR PARISH  proffered that if  Alaskan refers to  people and                                                               
Alaska  describes things,  then the  question is  whether artists                                                               
are  people.   He reasoned  that if  they are  people, then  they                                                               
should be referred to as Alaskan  artists.  He added, "And in the                                                               
case  of 'Alaska  Natives',  the  second word  is  the one  which                                                               
carries the modifier."                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:22:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   TALERICO  said   typically   Alaskan  means   an                                                               
individual  or individual  thing and  is  not used  for a  group;                                                               
therefore, he said he agrees with Representative Drummond.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:23:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   RAUSCHER   suggested   that  if   the   proposed                                                               
legislation  applies  to a  group  of  people rather  than  every                                                               
Alaskan, then perhaps that has some bearing on the discussion.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  PARISH  noted that  a  change  had  been made  [to  the                                                               
original legislation],  which removed Native from  "Alaska Native                                                               
artists", because  non-Native Alaskans can make  a living working                                                               
mastodon ivory.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:25:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PUCKETT,  in  response to  a  question  from  Representative                                                               
Rauscher,  reviewed   that  under   the  federal   Marine  Mammal                                                               
Protection Act, only  Natives can work on raw  walrus ivory; non-                                                               
Native Alaskans can work only with fossilized ivory.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   RAUSCHER   stated   that   he   would   [support                                                               
Representative Drummond's standpoint].                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:26:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND maintained her objection.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR PARISH  encouraged committee  members to  ask themselves                                                               
which, Alaska or Alaskan, sounds more natural.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND  said she edited  copy for over  30 years                                                               
as  a professional  graphic  designer and  has  been lectured  by                                                               
people who  know far  more about  the subject.   She  offered her                                                               
understanding that the  Associated Press (AP) Style  Manual has a                                                               
section  just for  Alaska, and  she said  she would  guarantee it                                                               
would "say the same thing."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:27:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND  [moved] to adopt a  conceptual amendment                                                               
to  Conceptual Amendment  1, such  that in  every instance  where                                                               
"Alaska" [is  used as an  adjective] it be changed  to "Alaskan".                                                               
She  then withdrew  her motion  and explained  she had  just been                                                               
making a point.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  PARISH reiterated  that "Alaskan"  refers to  a person,                                                               
not a place.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:29:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A  roll call  vote was  taken.   Representative  Parish voted  in                                                               
favor  of  Conceptual  Amendment  1.    Representatives  Lincoln,                                                               
Drummond,  Talerico, Rauscher,  and  Zulkosky  voted against  it.                                                               
Therefore, Conceptual Amendment 1 failed by a vote of 5-1.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:30:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ZULKOSKY  noted there was  a zero fiscal note  for CSSJR
(RES).                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:30:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR PARISH  moved to  report CSSJR  4(RES) out  of committee                                                               
with individual recommendations and  the accompanying zero fiscal                                                               
note.   There being no objection,  CSSJR 4(RES) moved out  of the                                                               
House Community and Regional Affairs Standing Committee.